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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:19 pm 
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Another way.
I used a steering shaft from a Triumph 2500/200.
You need to lengthen the connecting link, done with seamless tube from engineering shop.
Make a support for the base of the shaft at the fire wall.
Benefits of this way: No uni at exhaust point. You can have a steering lock, Parts available from Barry.
Photos if you want.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:43 pm 
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Hi

I know this subject has been discussed previously but I can't locate the thread so I thought I would start here.

I am thinking of doing the R&P conversion to my TR2. I have just contacted the Healey factory to see if they have supplied anything previously from either Moss or Rimmer Bros. I received the response that I was the first to enquire about the conversion and that when they had a car with a conversion it drove so badly that it was not considered to be worthwhile. I found both pieces of information incredibly difficult to believe and the fact that so many TR's have had that conversion done suggests that it must offer an improvement.

What I would like to know is what is the recommended conversion? I know both Moss and Rimmer offer a conversion but the Healey factory says the Moss conversion is only suitable for the Tr3A. can't understand why. I also know that Smithee's in Batemen's Bay did a conversion kit but I am not sure they still do that and then there are the home grown versions.

Can I get a few recommendations on what people have used and pro's and cons of the systems?


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:45 pm 
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Many people seem to go from worn out and poorly maintained worm and peg to R&P and comment how much better it is. Nobody goes from a good original to R&P.
If you have the solid shaft original TR2 steering column you will need to acquire a top half shaft to convert to R&P.
I took the other course and totally rebuilt my original steering box, installed a Revington top and phosphor bronze bushes instead of the silentbloc ones. It has been in now for 20,000 miles.
It was far cheaper, kept the original steering and indicators/horn and it is very good compared to R&P in all but parking. Even parking is easier than it was before but still a bit heavy.
On the open road it is great, steer with one finger, no wander and direct.
It does require ongoing greasing but so far nothing else.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:41 am 
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Hi,

Certainly possible as I’ve done it from scratch. See my earlier post.
If converting a TR2 you also need an upper column kit. Moss UK and US supply these.
Good info on both their websites.
Following is the link to Revington UK and their words of advice on a conversion.
Also lots of information and advice on the UK TR register forum about the better systems etc.

http://www.revingtontr.com/tr2/suspensi ... ion-tr2-3b

Cheers

Jim Allen


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:36 pm 
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i got my R&P from TRBitz in the UK but the unit is made by Bastuck & co Germany and i would go direct to them for the conversion kit, not cheep but a simple bolt on kit that works well

Graham


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:55 pm 
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I'm not sure what conversion the HF drove but the Australian (Goodall) conversion is fine. Yes there is some bump steer but this can be reduced to a point you do not notice it. The standard Escort rack is much lighter than the TR set up and about 3.25 turns lock to lock against 2.3 for the standard set up. You can fit a fast rack that is still lighter than the TR one but is back to 2.3 turns. I use this, its great both on the track and touring.
My understanding is that the Moss kit uses a LHD Mini rack turned upside down. The only one I know who has this kit fitted is Kevin Rochester in his road car. As far as I know, he finds it very good.
I used the R&P because my kit car did not come with a complete steering set up. During restoration I elected to fit it rather than find all the bits. If I was restoring a car today I would be in two minds as to go this way, especially a TR2 with its long steering shaft. I think, as Terry has alluded to, the standard set up is very good if in good condition.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:55 pm 
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I think it was my comment that Aladdin was referring to re rebuilding the original steering rather than Terry.
As far as I know only myself and Bob Slender champion the original set up.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:40 pm 
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Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

I am a bit in the middle as far as the old steering column, it is in an OK condition so will need some repair but the steering wheel and indicator mechanism is in not great shape with the indicator mechanism gone and the stator tube missing. I like the idea of the lighter steering and I am thinking I am up for similar cost no matter which way I go. I have no trouble with the standard steering at speed but the parking can be a bit of a drag.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:09 pm 
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Oooooops, sorry John.
You are in a bit of a bind. Doing the actual conversion on the steering is relatively straight forward but the problem comes with the horn and indicators. There have been a number of solutions, some simple and others more sophisticated. As for cost, you can get a new fast rack for about $250, not sure what Terry Goodall charges for the bracket, the Commodore steering shaft will be hard to find but you could make one up. Then there is finding the upper column you will require. At least with reworking the original set up, all the parts are available.


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 Post subject: Re: Steering conversion
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:16 pm 
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colinb, if you are in the Sydney region I am happy to give you a hand to set up your original steering if you go that way.


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